The End of St. Bonaventure University - RIP

[bonafide]

Tuesday, Nov. 28, 2006

Campus Community & Campus Media Briefing on
Commission for Responsible Use of Alcohol Report

WHEN: Wednesday, Nov. 29, 2006; from 3:15 to 4 p.m.
WHERE: Hall of Fame, Reilly Center
WHAT: Sr. Margaret Carney, O.S.F., University president, will be joined by Commission co-chairs Dr. Carol Fischer, Fr. Peter Schneible and Erika Mattoon, as well as Counseling Center director Roger Keener, to discuss the report and to answer questions from the campus media and community.
WHO'S INVITED: Anyone from the campus community and campus media interested in this important topic.

To read the CRUA report, go to www.sbu.edu/SBUCustom/InsideBonas/IB_Nov30/CRUA.pdf

Campus media questions can be sent to Tom Missel, interim director of media relations, at [e-mail]; phone ext. 2303.

The report is calling for some major changes in the very culture of St. Bonaventure University and could have major implications in the long term. A survey of alcohol usage on campus was done some years ago but I don't think much was done or could be done at the time. I wonder how this one will turn out.


Jim Sicksteuh Banned Wagon post.........


To illustrate how times have changed.

As a senior, my roomie and I lived on first floor Dev.
Across the hall lived two other senior friends of ours.

Two weeks before commencement, one of the guys across the hall was caught icing down a six-pack in their room.

The next day he was shown the door and the highway.

Don't know if he got credits transferred somewhere else or if he ever got a degree anywhere else.

In those days justice was swift and severe.

AND THAT WAS WHEN THE LEGAL DRINKING AGE WAS 18.

[southhampton]

[softintheo]

Did anyone notice that I congratulated him.... I think he yet again proves he is the biggest douchebag of all time. How did that guy go to the same school that we went to and come out like that?




Jim Sicksteuh

bonafide said:

Tuesday, Nov. 28, 2006

Campus Community & Campus Media Briefing on
Commission for Responsible Use of Alcohol Report

WHEN: Wednesday, Nov. 29, 2006; from 3:15 to 4 p.m.
WHERE: Hall of Fame, Reilly Center
WHAT: Sr. Margaret Carney, O.S.F., University president, will be joined by Commission co-chairs Dr. Carol Fischer, Fr. Peter Schneible and Erika Mattoon, as well as Counseling Center director Roger Keener, to discuss the report and to answer questions from the campus media and community.
WHO'S INVITED: Anyone from the campus community and campus media interested in this important topic.

To read the CRUA report, go to www.sbu.edu/SBUCustom/InsideBonas/IB_Nov30/CRUA.pdf

Campus media questions can be sent to Tom Missel, interim director of media relations, at [e-mail]; phone ext. 2303.

The report is calling for some major changes in the very culture of St. Bonaventure University and could have major implications in the long term. A survey of alcohol usage on campus was done some years ago but I don't think much was done or could be done at the time. I wonder how this one will turn out.


Jim Sicksteuh Banned Wagon post.........


To illustrate how times have changed.

As a senior, my roomie and I lived on first floor Dev.
Across the hall lived two other senior friends of ours.

Two weeks before commencement, one of the guys across the hall was caught icing down a six-pack in their room.

The next day he was shown the door and the highway.

Don't know if he got credits transferred somewhere else or if he ever got a degree anywhere else.

In those days justice was swift and severe.

AND THAT WAS WHEN THE LEGAL DRINKING AGE WAS 18.

[The Dull House]

Next time I get a call from the BonaThon I'm saying no money until this ridiculous president is thrown out. I hated her as a choice. well, not hate, she's a nun. But seriously, she doesn't have enough clout with local leaders in Buffalo and surrounding areas to be taken seriously. I know they wanted to put in a person of faith after the scandal but a priest would've been much better or a layperson that really knew finance to have Bona Make Money again.

[CosmonautLaunchPad]

What an absolute crock of shit. I'm with Dull. Not one red cent from me ever. Forget about the Basketball program, it will be this dry campus bullshit that dooms SBU.

[kcbonnies]

I read the thing and it is not calling for a dry campus, it actually takes pains to point out that the committee does not advocate a dry campus. It wants to open a bar on the east side of campus (an idea that has been around since the orginial town houses opened) and to offer more events that would provide an alternative to the bar/party evenings. I don't think this is a bad thing. When the skeller was reopened in 95, it had fabulous drink speacials and was becoming a place to hang out (actually it was killing the all you can drink night at the OP which has since died by law, I think). They were forced to close down many of the things that made the skeller successful because of underage drinking, but moving the bar to the east side of campus would seem to work. Other things in this report, which includes more group space in the RC and the academic buildings would be good. Better and more modern lounges in the dorms are also recommended.
I think Bona's party image will stay, but I also think that there is nothing wrong with bringing alternative programs to campus to build a bigger base for students. Don't take this report out of context.

[CosmonautLaunchPad]

kcbonnies makes a good point. The actual content of the link isn't quite as bad as we made it out to be. But I DON'T agree with making the Skellar dry.

[wutang]

Drinking and especially underage drinking is a big issue in society in general these days so of course they have to and should provide and encourage alternatives. And they will never come out and embrace the party image, but they aren't trying to end it either. There is always talk of them doing this or doing that to end the party image and that is a good public stance but after all the talk when I went back for graduation last year it was just like I remember. As long as students can act responsible and also drink without problems I don't have a problem with publicly condemning the party image we have. I will have a problem if they actually do change the culture and crack down on having a good time with booze.

As for the Skeller and proposed new bar they both should stay open and serve booze. It is not impossible to run a bar without underage drinking. Keep the students on campus and you eliminate a lot of the complaints coming from the townies. If you force them to go into town to get drunk all the time the more problems with locals they will have.

[oleanron]

It's not a big deal to make the Skellar dry, at least to me. I mean, there was no alcohol served there until after I left. Actually, I think they tried doing a Friday night thing that was a dismal failure my senior year, but that was it.

I'm not going to say I won't donate to SBU. I did that once when You-Know-Who was there. And I actually like Sister Margaret--I've corrosponded with her and she's a good broad. She sent me a very nice response to an email I sent (which was a welcome departure from her predecessor). And I don't think we should jump to conclusions that it's going to be a "dry" campus.

Even if it were, do you honestly think that would stop students from sneaking in booze for room parties? It pretty much was a dry campus when I was there. There was no place to have a drink on campus. I think you were allowed in Francis and the Gardens, but that was it.

So, it's not the end of the University as we know it. So says the Bonaventure ICON.

[vinnypunditsheros]

At first I thought this could be the end of Bona-Hogging as we know it.

The Skellar should continue to serve booze, even if it's only during Senior Happy Hour and whatever concerts go on. I wouldn't give a shit if Thursday Night Dance Party went dry. I never went to that anyways. I'd rather get gasfaced playing beer pong than listen to music I hate without being able to talk to anyone. So that can be dry. It would lead to less unsuspecting freshman giving blowjobs to the baskteball team in the mens room.

[doogiehowsermd]

When Sr. "Mussolini" first became president one of the first things she did was pull out all alcohol from the Hall of Fame room. After the first home basketball game the alumni complained and she gave in and made it so that a limited amount of alcohol was for sale. Before when the other douche was president beer was free pregame and at halftime. Our hoops team was good, the campus atomosphere was great, AND WE COULD HAVE A FUCKING BEER ON CAMPUS IF WE WISHED!!!!

Any student with balls would go to this "meeting" and get eleven of his buddies together and drink a twelve pack in front of Sr. Margaret and her facist prohibitionist ideals and hum the national anthem and walk out. If there is any students reading this, send a message to the administration that of age students have the right to drink if they wish and that turning SBU into a dry campus is going to lead to its demise.

[oleanron]

Well, first of all, I just want to say that Jim62's winning of Douchebag Survivor is well-deserved. Seriously, was this guy a shut-in at SBU? I'm not saying to go around BENT all the time (like the guy down the hall who used to pour beer over his Cheerios every morning. As that great academian Dean Vernon Wormer once said, fat, BENT and stupid is no way to through life, son), but if he had his way, every student would be in bed at 9pm after studying and mandatory mass. It's unrealistic.

Secondly, from a liability standpoint, the University HAS to be strict about underage drinking. They would be in so much trouble if an underage student died because they got BENT at the Skellar or whatnot. What happens at the OP or the Burton or off-campus isn't really their problem (unless a University employee knows that a student is engaging in risky behavior and does nothing to stop it). Bonafide, you need to understand that when you went to SBU, the legal drinking age was 18. It wasn't a problem. When I went, it was 21. Does that I mean I didn't drink? General Tso's Chicken no. But again, from a legal standpoint, the University cannot be seen to condone illegal behavior. They'd be so General Tso's Chickened. On the other hand, it's naive to think that they can eliminate underage drinking altogether. I mean, students are going to drink, legal or not. I think their intent isn't to crack down, it's to prevent and I think they're more concerned with students who clearly have a problem than students who sneak the occasional beer into their room.

Third, at no point in the recommendations does it say to ban alcohol on campus. What it says is that they are trying to discourage underage drinking and try and contain alcohol-related events to the east side of campus (ie the Townhouses, Francis, the Gardens). It doesn't say that if you're 21, you can't keep a bottle of wine or a six-pack of beer in your fridge.

The one thing I understand but disagree with is "freshman-only" floors. When I was a freshman, one thing that helped me enormously was that a bunch of upperlcassmen--juniors, mostly--on my floor took me under their wing. That was a huge help in adjusting to life on campus and those guys became some of my best friends.

Anyway, I hope I don't come across like an a$$hole, but if you read it closely, it doesn't seem to be as bad as it is. Although I can see how one can be angry upon first glance, though.

[oleanron]

Oh, and Bonafide, I'm assuming that Jim was NOT a part of the Hawaiian Numbah. Aloha!

[kcsbu03]

Well said Ron. I liked how there were upperclassmen on my floor my freshmen year. Its the main reason i chose Dev over Shay. The day i moved in there were sophomores across the hall who came over and said if we had any questions to just give a knock at the door. It was just a microcosm of the Bona experience.

Also, some of the most fun I had my Sr year was getting drunk at the Skeller every Tuesday night. For $10 you could drink a shitload of beer and play pool, shuffle board...etc. Great times.

[vinnypunditsheros]

We had a keg of (I think) Golden Anniversary on the lawn in front of townhouses. It wasn't quite Spring Weekend, but it was close. My my, what a magical drunken adventure it was that day! Security didn't seem to mind. I think the keg was in a trashcan or something covered in ice, but it was clearly a keg.

That's the sort of behavior that should not be condoned. Kegs of Golden Anniversary on the front lawn? Every student should be written up and made to do community service.

Get kegs of Genny instead. (If you didn't see that punchline coming, give yourself a tard pic).